Horrible Landing Attempt
Im not going to joke about this one. This is serious, the Lufthansa Airbus A320 attempted to land in Germany in a wind storm with gusts up to 150mph, no lie. To make matter worse the Co-pilot was landing the aircraft. Read more at these links
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gntYTA0NhI49Wvj2jKe9V1ZyN6_QD8V6OA700
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/03/03/germany.plane/index.html
Tags: Germany, Lufthansa, Airbus, A320
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gntYTA0NhI49Wvj2jKe9V1ZyN6_QD8V6OA700
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/03/03/germany.plane/index.html
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read the comments this has only been said like 20 times
lets end this experience thing
I wouldn't call it a bad landing attempt, lots of strong winds there!!!
Also, 150 mph winds seem a little too much exhagerated to me...
its what i heard on the news
but they like to dramatize everthing
Also, 150 mph winds seem a little too much exhagerated to me...
Just curious, werent you gonna leave this site.
I did , did you miss me ?
No I was not a "Co"..gliders dont have co pilots, only pilots or students.
Just trying to correct the perception that a co-pilot is any less of an aviator than a pilot.
Oh i know they are not but it would make people more nervous to hear a CO was flying
And yes i did miss you.......glad your back ;)
I did , did you miss me ?
No I was not a "Co"..gliders dont have co pilots, only pilots or students.
Just trying to correct the perception that a co-pilot is any less of an aviator than a pilot.
ATC were in the tower, that is how the pilot got his wx info.
Co pilots have to fly..that's where captains come from so where do you get off saying that it make it worse that the co pilot was flying....it's not like the co has no clue about flying, it would be worse if the cabin crew were flying the approach.
I would say a missed approach or a touch and go....not a bad landing. The pilot realised this early and went around, that was the right thing to do.
Where did you get this BS 150 mph gusts??..all airspeed is given in knots. Read and learn.
Were you a co because your getting all but hurt
Ive been on many flights and hearing that a co is flying a plane would make people scared
And i said landing attempt not a landing read the title
and im sorry 130 knots
got it from a news site
ive read it on a news site cant remember which one but most people dont understand knots so they give it in mph
Just curious, werent you gonna leave this site?
Co pilots have to fly..that's where captains come from so where do you get off saying that it make it worse that the co pilot was flying....it's not like the co has no clue about flying, it would be worse if the cabin crew were flying the approach.
I would say a missed approach or a touch and go....not a bad landing. The pilot realised this early and went around, that was the right thing to do.
Where did you get this BS 150 mph gusts??..all airspeed is given in knots. Read and learn.
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How would the Co-pilot, or any other less experienced pilot, become a better one if that was always the case? That's like saying "I only want the senior fighter pilots defending my country" while the freshly trained graduates stay on the ground - if they got to that position, they are obviously seen to be competent enough. Captain or Co-pilot, they more or less carry the same responsibilities and roles throughout their job.
Well he learned some things like never to land in 150mph crosswinds
he probably s*** his pants after this
BTW Were was the ATC on this landing
Are you being sarcastic?
Anyway I watched the CNN video, and for some reason ATC blatantly took them into a crosswind approach, instead of the perpendicular runway, leading into the wind. Needing to land was also not an issue as they were able to hold for about 10 minutes after the first go-around. Seems like a bad call on ATC's side for this case.
wow what was the ATC thinking?
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How would the Co-pilot, or any other less experienced pilot, become a better one if that was always the case? That's like saying "I only want the senior fighter pilots defending my country" while the freshly trained graduates stay on the ground - if they got to that position, they are obviously seen to be competent enough. Captain or Co-pilot, they more or less carry the same responsibilities and roles throughout their job.
Well he learned some things like never to land in 150mph crosswinds
he probably s*** his pants after this
BTW Were was the ATC on this landing
Are you being sarcastic?
Anyway I watched the CNN video, and for some reason ATC blatantly took them into a crosswind approach, instead of the perpendicular runway, leading into the wind. Needing to land was also not an issue as they were able to hold for about 10 minutes after the first go-around. Seems like a bad call on ATC's side for this case.
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What "speed" it was gusts up to 150mph i think
Please, come on! gust up to 150mph !!!? it will goes 30mph backward!
Here is some facts.
90 degrees crosswind limit for the A-320 and for non contaminated runway:
-T/O: 29kts gust 38kts
-Ldg: 33kts gust 38kts
Wind was 290/33 gusts to 49kts they used runway 23.
It is 60 degrees offset which gives roughly 28kts gust 43kts.
I dont know the gust at the time
but gusts upt to 150 mph in the storm
What "speed" it was gusts up to 150mph i think
Please, come on! gust up to 150mph !!!? it will goes 30mph backward!
Here is some facts.
90 degrees crosswind limit for the A-320 and for non contaminated runway:
-T/O: 29kts gust 38kts
-Ldg: 33kts gust 38kts
Wind was 290/33 gusts to 49kts they used runway 23.
It is 60 degrees offset which gives roughly 28kts gust 43kts.
Man...I don't know what to say....luckly this didn't end in an accident. I guess everybody has put their comments according to their experiences. It would be interesting to know the crosswinds limits of the A320 and which was the wind component at the time of the landing.
What "speed" it was gusts up to 150mph i think
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First, I am glad that there was not a loss of life. Now, what does the Co-Pilot landing the aircraft have to do with it? As was mentioned, pilot or Co-pilot, that was a crazy situation that has the potential to get the best of anyone, regardless of experience.
Well is it just me or would i want a more experienced pilot landing the plane regardless of the weather
How would the Co-pilot, or any other less experienced pilot, become a better one if that was always the case? That's like saying "I only want the senior fighter pilots defending my country" while the freshly trained graduates stay on the ground - if they got to that position, they are obviously seen to be competent enough. Captain or Co-pilot, they more or less carry the same responsibilities and roles throughout their job.
Well he learned some things like never to land in 150mph crosswinds
he probably s*** his pants after this
BTW Were was the ATC on this landing
Landing under those circumstances is a textbook definition of a BAD CALL.The passengers cheated death on that one.Making fun of the situation is purerly coincidental
completly agree pilot or copilot should have attempted to land
did you see the cnn link its a passengers recolection of the flight
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First, I am glad that there was not a loss of life. Now, what does the Co-Pilot landing the aircraft have to do with it? As was mentioned, pilot or Co-pilot, that was a crazy situation that has the potential to get the best of anyone, regardless of experience.
Well is it just me or would i want a more experienced pilot landing the plane regardless of the weather
How would the Co-pilot, or any other less experienced pilot, become a better one if that was always the case? That's like saying "I only want the senior fighter pilots defending my country" while the freshly trained graduates stay on the ground - if they got to that position, they are obviously seen to be competent enough. Captain or Co-pilot, they more or less carry the same responsibilities and roles throughout their job.
First, I am glad that there was not a loss of life. Now, what does the Co-Pilot landing the aircraft have to do with it? As was mentioned, pilot or Co-pilot, that was a crazy situation that has the potential to get the best of anyone, regardless of experience.
Well is it just me or would i want a more experienced pilot landing the plane regardless of the weather
Why not joke about it, since the things that might have happened didn't? At least get some fun out of this emergency. Blaming the pilot is stupid though, landing with such a crosswind is insane no matter how much hours you have logged.
So, continuing the US tanker b****ing: A 737 would have landed, but because it's such a speedy machine with moderate braking capibilities, it would have overrun the runway. h wait, we're compairing a plane from the sixties with a design from the nineties... Hmm, which will be better? And retarded Force says: *Dhuuuuugh, the A320, I guess, eeeeeeeeuh*.
And remember all wings are fine as long as there is some kind of a symmetry relative to the intended design :P
were are you getting this 737 suff at.
Why should you joke
1. shouldnt have landed
2. co pilot flying
They should be reprimanded for thier actions.
So, continuing the US tanker b****ing: A 737 would have landed, but because it's such a speedy machine with moderate braking capibilities, it would have overrun the runway. h wait, we're compairing a plane from the sixties with a design from the nineties... Hmm, which will be better? And retarded Force says: *Dhuuuuugh, the A320, I guess, eeeeeeeeuh*.
And remember all wings are fine as long as there is some kind of a symmetry relative to the intended design :P