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Francois
Francois says..
Cooooool ! First time I see images from that plane ! COOL !
Posted 2 Years Ago
dawnovsky
dawnovsky says..
old video ... but always good to remeber. As far as i remeber, they stop the project of operating jaguar on carrier because they were requesting heavy changes on the main gear struts. They were also on contest again the super etendrat witch was specially designed for navy use.
Posted 2 Years Ago
Krzysztof
Krzysztof says..
Cool
Posted 2 Years Ago
Pablo Chantir
Pablo Chantir says..
Yes Yorkmoute, but I was talking about the time when the Aeronavale thought in the F18 as an interim fighter to provide a stop-gap between the retirement of the F8 and the transition to the Rafale. The time when the Rafale project had a delay. The idea was remplace the F8, but not the SUE. Of course, now the Rafale is in service, with a little delay in the deliveries, though. But yes, now the Rafale is real, so in few years will remplace the SEU too.
Posted 2 Years Ago
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Santiago says..
Cool video
Posted 2 Years Ago
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dimitris says..
Rare and interesting video
Posted 2 Years Ago
Enrico
Enrico says..
Thank you for sharing a video of this little-known project!!!
Posted 2 Years Ago
Frédéric Morawiec
Frédéric Morawiec says..
Very nice video. I have colleague who has been working on the Clemenceau. He sure would be delighted to see this vid.
Posted 2 Years Ago
Juan Valdivia
Juan Valdivia says..
Didn't know about the Jaguar been tested on carriers. Kind of small aircraft for the job. Anyway very interesting.
Posted 2 Years Ago
Samy ROBERGE
Samy ROBERGE says..
Quote:
Originally posted by Yorkmoute
Rafale 1.8mach (and more in fact because it has past mach 2 during flight tests),


I am not aware of this... If it was done, it would have been in a "clean" configuration during a steep dive... which has not a great operationnal value :p
Posted 2 Years Ago
Etienne da yorkmoute
Etienne da yorkmoute says..
Quote:
Originally posted by aluuri
jaguar acceeds mach 1.6 and super etendard 0.95??


Yeah but i don't think speed is important for plane capability, the most important are high manoeuvrability, high load capacity, a good radar and good weapons and let's go for an attack!! To came back to those planes SEM is used such of bomber, short fuel tanker, and training missions for young pilots after T45 Goshawk.That plane is solidly built. Jaguar did the same kind of missions bombing with good air to air capability but for the french air force. Today they need strong potential on each kind of missions instead of specialized aircrafts, omnirole fighters were born.And last thing speed SEM is 1.3mach (11000m ; 0.97 is at low height),Jaguar 1.6mach, Rafale 1.8mach (and more in fact because it has past mach 2 during flight tests),
Posted 2 Years Ago
Etienne da yorkmoute
Etienne da yorkmoute says..
Quote:
Originally posted by Fetan
Quote:
Originally posted by Yorkmoute
After it has been suggested studies for stovl planes, and after F18 Hornet , and at the end the right choice, the Rafale M, many years after the decision to exchange french navy planes.

Actually the F18 was suggested as the replacement of the F8 Crusaiders, but not for the Super Etendard. The Aeronavale thought in the middle of eighty to rent F18 of the US Navy, because in thouse time the Rafale still in developed and the F8 were too old.

I'm really sorry for my English.


Yes Fetan but F8 crusader's never have been replaced in his own role, because of the Rafale project that is an omnirole planes called to replace all planes on board of the french carrier.There is an high efficiency for the plane capabilities, maintenance and finally for the investment then a french lobby lead by Dassault had been engaged to conclude on the Rafale project and today no one regret apart the delay of delivery. That means time is on a countdown for the SEM but however we get time!
Posted 2 Years Ago
aluuri
aluuri says..
jaguar acceeds mach 1.6 and super etendard 0.95??
Posted 2 Years Ago
Sébastien Hervieu
Sébastien Hervieu says..
Oh, and I love the music too!!
Posted 2 Years Ago
Sébastien Hervieu
Sébastien Hervieu says..
Indeed a very rare footage of this plane, which is a bit of a myth in the french aviation fan community. Thank you en52, I've been looking for such a video on the web for years, litteraly. Great post.

The main reason the program was dropped was because the plane could not perform a trap with only one engine. And in effect even Air Force versions of the Jaguar (M and E) were noticeably underpowered. The RAF even re-engined their own Jaguar with more powerfull versions of the Adour over the time, the Armée de l'air did not.
Posted 2 Years Ago
Pablo Chantir
Pablo Chantir says..
Quote:
Originally posted by Yorkmoute
After it has been suggested studies for stovl planes, and after F18 Hornet , and at the end the right choice, the Rafale M, many years after the decision to exchange french navy planes.


Actually the F18 was suggested as the replacement of the F8 Crusaiders, but not for the Super Etendard. The Aeronavale thought in the middle of eighty to rent F18 of the US Navy, because in thouse time the Rafale still in developed and the F8 were too old.

I'm really sorry for my English.
Posted 2 Years Ago
John Batalogiannis
John Batalogiannis says..
Rare and interesting video for the navy edition of Jaguar.
Posted 2 Years Ago
Etienne da yorkmoute
Etienne da yorkmoute says..
Quote:
Originally posted by aluuri
rare footage of jaguar for aeronavale. A deal that never came true, Aeronavale choose super etendard even it was not so good choice(politics)

Well in fact that was a prototype with tests for the french navy on the carrier Clemenceau. This plane was an answer for the replacement of the Etendard IV. During the test campain it had been found that the Jaguar M wasn't enough secure on landing with only one reactor and the cost was again heavy, so french government decided to stop it and modernized the Etendard IV with the Super Etendard then Super Etendard Modernisé (SEM). After it has been suggested studies for stovl planes, and after F18 Hornet , and at the end the right choice, the Rafale M, many years after the decision to exchange french navy planes. That video is wonderful it's a rare film.
Posted 2 Years Ago
Josh Pope
Josh Pope says..
cool video
Posted 2 Years Ago
Artur
Artur says..
rare stuff!thx
Posted 2 Years Ago
aluuri
aluuri says..
rare footage of jaguar for aeronavale. A deal that never came true, Aeronavale choose super etendard even it was not so good choice(politics)
Posted 2 Years Ago
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