T-38 v F-22

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No joke. Always p***ed me off when RAPCON would call out "t-38 traffic at your 12, 10 miles...do you have them in sight?" Are you f'n serious?

A line you will NEVER EVER hear in real life: " KILL F-22 left hand turn 19000" :D

has nothing to do with dogfight capabilities of the aircraft. I could track a raptor with an airliner if he didn't see me.

cool

interesting though, if the F-22 did not do the dogfight without serious restrictions, then they kinda screwed up on its dogfight capabilities.

looks like a 2 v 1 ACM engagement. The raptor pilot calls "tally one only" for safety reasons since he only sees Carbon lead and not #2. Lead calls tally/visual, and says continue to the raptor pilot. #2 calls engaged and tracks the raptor. The raptor had no idea. 38's are a b**** to see, especially nose on. Good footage.

i thing it is when the training done is that T-38 go behind the F-22 it will and never cache the F-22 :)